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Di Nov 10 17:20:47 CET 2020

(Can somebody check, if Vivien is added to the mailing list.) 

Timeline:
In the last Jour Fixe (14/Oct), the president said, all is done now. I replied, ''we will try again and again until you don't listen to us.'' 

To make the change in the construction plan, we had an on-site meeting with Chancellor on 16/Sept but he didn't come. Alice Boit said, she doesn't have rights so she can't decide upon any changes. (it was a very strategic, and long debate.)

In 22/Sept/19 reply, she was mentioning about 10/oct/2019 meeting, where Selina(+49 15209480414, campus politics) and Jonathan(jwiegers at astaup.de, university politics) were the newly elected representatives (It was there first meeting). In the meeting, a council member said, ''the decision already finalised in March/19, so nothing to talk about it.'' Meeting proceeded to the next topic. Because of the lack of information, Selina and Jonathan didn't say anything in against to that.

On 27/Feb/2019, Sara (+491634439789) was present at jour fixe with a petition signed by 800+ students to support the demand, but university wanted a bigger room space for university shop and used 'self-learning zone' argument against student's demand of free room. Council left the decision for later. On 1/Mar/19, university administration finalised the construction plan, without any further discussion, which was surprising for student representatives. 

In 2018, Student Parliament also gave a statement to support free room for students, but the university council didn't consider it.

If you want to know further back, in 2018-17, Kilian (student representative, kbinder at uni-potsdam.de) was the person who introduced self-learning room in the council meeting for the first time. University liked the idea of self-learning zone because it had to regulated by the university administration. Other student representatives demanded free-room (student self-administered), but the council thought, it is an un-neccessary demand of students.
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The building has to be demolished after 9 years from now, and students already have spent more than two years in the fight for free room. Here is a member who actively working on this topic: Dulguun (+491723158980, Grüner Campus). Feel free to contact her. 

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Am Neuen Palais 10
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D - 14469 Potsdam
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Ortstermin Rohbau Buchladen ANP | Terminabsprache
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:25 CET
From: David Aaron Nathaniel Hümpfner <huempfner at uni-potsdam.de>
To: "Shubham Mamgain" <smamgain at astaup.de>
References: <3960-5fa46600-21-1fb47360 at 221042210>

Dear Shubham Mamgain,
thank you for the thread of emails you sent, it proved to be quite
informative.

As far as a timeline is concerned: In the mail from September 22nd, Alice
Boit notes that "a change in the ongoing construction is impossible as the
final decision about the division in three zones has already been made over
a year ago."
Was decision coordinated with the student body? Did all parties agree on the
concept as it stood for most of this year?

Thank you for your time,
Nathan Hümpfner

On Thu, 05 Nov 2020 21:51:42 +0100
"Shubham Mamgain" <smamgain at astaup.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Please read the following trail of emails. After the Jour Fixe, student body and university administration decided to fix an on-site meeting in the presence of chancellor (responsible person). Unfortunately, Chancellor didn't come to the meeting and the situation didn't resolve until now. The last meeting on 14/oct, the president repeated the statement, nothing can be changed in the plan. There is one more current issue I would like to highlight regarding sustainable development of our university. more than 40+ trees are marked to be cut down at Neues Palais. If you find it a story to cover, please let me know.
>
> Regards
> Shubham mmagain
> _______________________________
> International Department
> General Student Committee (AStA)Office:+49 331 977 4042
> Am Neuen Palais 10
> Haus 6, Raum 0.10
> D - 14469 Potsdam
> _______________________________
> The Cosmopolitan Youth
> Telegram:
> +91 6395191192
> Student Parliament (StuPa)University of Potsdam, Germany
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Ortstermin Rohbau Buchladen ANP | Terminabsprache
> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 18:51 CEST
>From: "Shubham Mamgain" <smamgain at astaup.de>
> To: Boit, Alice <alice.boit at uni-potsdam.de>, kanzler at uni-potsdam.de
> CC: jelka.hoenicke at uni-potsdam.de, kanzlerbuero at uni-potsdam.de, christian.stempfl at uni-potsdam.de, jana.holzmann at uni-potsdam.de, npfreiraum at lists.astaup.de, intern at astaup.de, mitglieder at stupa.uni-potsdam.de
>
>
> Attached, you find the missing proposal of the last email. (See below)
>
> Regards,
> Shubham Mamgain
> _______________________________
> International Department
> General Student Committee (AStA)Office:+49 331 977 4042
> Am Neuen Palais 10
> Haus 6, Raum 0.16
> D - 14469 Potsdam
> _______________________________
> The Cosmopolitan Youth
> Telegram:
> +91 6395191192
> Student Parliament (StuPa)University of Potsdam, Germany
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 18:15 CEST, "Shubham Mamgain" <smamgain at astaup.de> wrote:
> Respected Sir, Respected Mam,
>
>First of all, many thanks for accepting the proposal of tea/coffee kitchenette for the free room at Neues Palais.
>
>Further about agreement, I would say, the wall, dividing 44 sq.m room space into two compact rooms, is not meaningful in practical sense and that is why it is hard for us to accept the decision of university council (Mar/19). The both small rooms, studicafe(21 sq. m) and self-learning room(23 sq.m) are going to use by students, hence, those rooms can be merged together into one bigger room to offer an open learning environment.
>
> University Potsdam needs an intellectual platform for its students to push the invovation out, and an free room can fulfil the necessity. Our university promote itself as a garden where knowledge grows, but sadly, in the foreground of senate house, students are struggling for years to find thier space in the main campus. University council must recall the fact that walls had never lead to the solution, rather it works as hindrance in the path of collective growth.
>
> About room sharing: We, the student body, are happy to promote our university's artwork by the means of unishop. We seek for every possibility to integrate with others' convention in order to develop our university reputation in the global platform. It is possible, when student body and the university council will work together, constructively. We have submitted petition in Feb/19, to express our need, but the concil is neglecting it continously until now. Hereby, I'm attaching a proposal for the division of old book shop by taking the economical aspect as priority. I hope, you will understand the urge of our demand, and act upon it by being concious about the intellectual development of our university.
>
> Your Sincerely,
> Shubham
> _______________________________
> International Department
> General Student Committee (AStA)Office:+49 331 977 4042
> Am Neuen Palais 10
> Haus 6, Raum 0.16
> D - 14469 Potsdam
> _______________________________
> The Cosmopolitan Youth
> Telegram:
> +91 6395191192
> Student Parliament (StuPa)University of Potsdam, Germany
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 09:01 CEST, "Boit, Alice" <alice.boit at uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> Dear Students, As a result of our meeting at the bookshop ANP on Sep 16, 2020, HGP will obtain an offer for the installation of a tea/coffee kitchenette in the Freiraum. We kindly ask you for a little patience while we are requesting a quotation. We appreciate your efforts to work constructively together on the sanitary and kitchenette facilities. The student's dissapointment about the wall separating the Freiraum from the Self-learning zone has been communicated to the Chancellor. Please understand that a change in the ongoing construction is impossible as the final decision about the division in three zones has already been made over a year ago. Nonetheless, I would be happy to explore with you the possibilities of a common use of the self-learning zone - possibly also outside of the restricted office hours of the Unishop. To achieve this, we would need to discuss an agreement
with the users of the Unishop. Please feel free to contact me or Ms.
Holzmann anytime. Kind regardsAlice Boit -- Referentin fÃ¼r
StrukturentwicklungUniversitÃ¤t PotsdamBÃ¼ro des KanzlersHaus 9, R 2.14Tel.:
- 153007  ------ Original message------From: Shubham MamgainDate: Sun, Sep
13, 2020 17:04To: Boit, Alice;Cc: HÃ¶nicke, Jelka;BÃ¼ro des Kanzlers U.
Potsdam;Stempfl,
Christian;jana.holzmann at uni-potsdam.de;npfreiraum at lists.astaup.de;intern at astaup.de;mitglieder at stupa.uni-potsdam.de;Subject:Re:
Ortstermin Rohbau Buchladen ANP | Terminabsprache Dear Mrs Boit,
>
> Thanks for your quick feedback. I strongly emphasise that, the university council has not made the decision as per the demand of student body. In the decision making process, Feb/19 Jour Fixe, the proposed plan was not appreciated by student representatives, but the plan was finalised without considering the concern. In oct/19, student representatives requested to re-examine the construction plans, but request got denied by a council member.
>
> In a short notice, the student representatives appealed for on-site meeting in the last Jour Fixe. This on-site meeting, in the presence of the president's delegates, has been planned to evaluate the low space availability for studicafe, and to find a possible solution for the issue.
>
> We, student representatives, admire your every effort for orgainising this meeting and accept the unavaiblabilty of the Chancellor on the 16/Sept, 09:00 am. We hope that, we will meet again in coming Jour Fixe.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you soon. :)
>
> Warm regards,
> Shubham Mamgain
> _______________________________
> International Department
> General Student Committee (AStA)Office:Am Neuen Palais 10
> Haus 6, Raum 0.16
> D - 14469 Potsdam
> _______________________________
> The Cosmopolitan Youth
> Student Parliament (StuPa)University of Potsdam, Germany
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2020 09:55 CEST, "Boit, Alice" <alice.boit at uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> Dear Shubham,Dear students, I am happy to confirm the appointment on Sep 16, 2020 at 9am in front of the bookshop at Neues Palais. We would like to check together with you that the construction plan is being implemented as decided and communicated in March 2019. On part of the university administration, Ms. Holzmann, the lead structural engineer, and myself will attend the meeting. The Chancellor is involved in other appointments, and I will be happy to forward your remaining inquiries to him after the on-site visit. Please remember to wear your mouth-and-nose cover when visiting the building due to the corona-related regulations on campus. Thank you in advance. I'm looking forward to meeting you soon. Best regardsAlice Boit --Referentin fÃ¼r StrukturentwicklungUniversitÃ¤t PotsdamBÃ¼ro des KanzlersAm Neuen Palais 1014469 Potsdam+40 331 977 - 153007  ------ Original
message------From: Shubham MamgainDate: Sat, Sep 5, 2020 02:10To: Boit,
Alice;Cc: HÃ¶nicke, Jelka;BÃ¼ro des Kanzlers U. Potsdam;Stempfl,
Christian;jana.holzmann at uni-potsdam.de;npfreiraum at lists.astaup.de;mitglieder at stupa.uni-potsdam.de;intern;lufreitag at uni-potsdam.de;Subject:Re:
Ortstermin Rohbau Buchladen ANP | Terminabsprache Dear Mrs Boit,
>
> After consulting with the AStA council, 16/Sept at 09:00, morning, came up as the best possible time for the meeting at the construction site ('Old Book shop' in front of Haus 9 at Neues Palais).
>
> We're pleased to meet the chancellor and his consociates to examine the spatial distribution of Uni-shop, Self-learning room and free-room. Also, we're thankful to president GÃ¼nther to acknowledge the disappointment of students regarding the allotted low room-space in the last draft of the infrastructure.
>
> The student body will appreciate every possible step taken by the university council to provide a suitable solution for this years-long misery. We hope, the student representatives will use this opportunity to convey their demand to the president's delegate. Kind Regards,
> Shubham Mamgain
> _______________________________
> International Department
> General Student Committee (AStA)Office:Am Neuen Palais 10
> Haus 6, Raum 0.16
> D - 14469 Potsdam
> _______________________________
> The Cosmopolitan Youth
> Student Parliament (StuPa)University of Potsdam, Germany
>
> On Thursday, September 03, 2020 15:37 CEST, "Alice Boit" <aboit at uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
>
> Liebe AStA-Mitglieder,
> Liebe Studierende, [ENGLISH VERSION BELOW]
>
> Ich mÃ¶chte Sie in Folge des Jour Fixe AStA vom 2.9.20 herzlich zu einer Begehung des Rohbaus des Buchladens Am Neuen Palais einladen.
>
> Als Termin stehen zur Auswahl
> Â·    Donnerstag, 10.09.20 oder
> Â·    Mittwoch, 16.09.20
>
> Jeweils entweder um 9:00 Uhr oder um 11.00 Uhr. Wegen der laufenden Bauarbeiten sind wir auf diese Uhrzeiten bei der Begehung eingeschrÃ¤nkt.
>
> Bitte kommunizieren Sie den Terminvorschlag auch an die Mitglieder der AG Freiraum und des Studierendenparlamentes, die gestern im AStA vertreten waren.
> Bitte stimmen Sie sich untereinander ab und geben mir bitte bis Dienstag nÃ¤chster Woche eine gemeinsame RÃ¼ckmeldung, welchen Termin Sie wahrnehmen mÃ¶chten, und wie viele Personen kommen werden.
>
> Bitte bringen Sie sich aufgrund der Corona-Regeln einen Mund-Nasen-Schutz fÃ¼r die Besichtigung mit.
>
> Herzlichen Dank fÃ¼r Ihr Interesse und ich freue mich auf Ihren Besuch vor Ort!
>
> Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼ÃŸen,
> Alice Boit
>
> --
> Referentin fÃ¼r Strukturentwicklung
> UniversitÃ¤t Potsdam
> BÃ¼ro des Kanzlers
> Am Neuen Palais 10
> 14469 Potsdam
> 0331 / 977 - 153007
>
>
> Dear AStA representatives,
> Dear students,
>
> As a result of the Jour Fixe AStA on September 2, 2020, I would like to cordially invite you to an inspection of the extended shell of the bookstore Am Neuen Palais.
>
> The dates available for selection are
> Â·    Thursday, September 10, 2020 or
> Â·    Wednesday, September 16, 2020
>
> Either at 9:00 a.m. or at 11:00 a.m. Due to the ongoing construction work, we are limited to these times during the inspection.
>
> Please communicate the proposed date to the members of the AG Freiraum and the student parliament who were represented in the AStA yesterday.
> Please coordinate with each other and please give me a common feedback until next Tuesday as to which appointment you would like to keep, and how many people will be attending.
>
> Due to the corona rules, please bring mouth and nose cover with you for the visit.
>
> Thanks very much for your interest and I look forward to meeting you soon on campus! Best regards,
> Alice Boit
>
>
> --
> Referentin fÃ¼r Strukturentwicklung
> UniversitÃ¤t Potsdam
> BÃ¼ro des Kanzlers
> Am Neuen Palais 10
> 14469 Potsdam
> 0331 / 977 - 153007
>
>

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